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Hello, and welcome. You’re listening to DaHjaj Hol, your daily dose of Klingon language. I’m your host, Lawrence Schoen.
For the opening day of June I have a special bit of chuvmey for you. The word is tlhoy. TLH, O, Y. tlhoy means overly, or to an excessive degree, or excessively, or too much. Let’s try it out.
tlhoy roumuluSngan DatIch
you overly insulted the Romulan
tlhoy chom vIHIv, ‘ach vIHoHnISbe’
I attacked the bartender excessively, but I did not need to kill him
ghaytan machechchugh tlhoy HIq wItlhutlh
likely if we are drunk, we drank ale too much
Maybe you’ll spend the rest of the day thinking of verbs phrases that you indulge in too much. Maybe this interest in excess will creep into your dreams and you’ll find yourself not merely dreaming in Klingon, but doing it overly much. If so, don’t be alarmed. It’s just another sign of worlds opening up because of the language. qo’mey poSmoH Hol.
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It’s worth noting that there’s another word that serves a similar purpose: ‘Iq = be too many, be too much
http://klingonska.org/canon/search/?file=1999-09-holqed-08-3.txt&get=source
wa’Hu’ ram targh ‘Iq vISop. = I ate too much targ last night. [I should have stopped after the first 0.5 kg.]
wa’Hu’ ram tlhoy targh vISop. = I over-ate targ last night. [I shouldn’t have eaten the bones. / I should have tried a wider variety of foods.]
06.01.11 at 6:49 am
Similar yes, but grammatically very different. As an adverbial, tlhoy is modifying the verb (action or stative) of the phrase. On the other hand ‘Iq is a stative verb which you’re using (in your example) to modify the noun.
This produces a very different focus. One which some would argue is marked (i.e., drawing extra attention to itself) by virtue of emphasizing a noun, when generally speaking Klingon is all about the verbs.
Moreover, I didn’t bring up this comparison in the podcast because, while I agree it’s worth noting, at the moment it’s beyond the scope of the DaHjaj Hol podcast because we haven’t yet discussed using stative verbs to modify nouns.
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06.03.11 at 9:06 am
While it’s true that Klingon is more verb-centric than English, it seems to me that when it is the quantity of liquor consumed that is relevant, rather than the manner in which said liquor was consumed, using ‘Iq simply makes more sense.
To quote Okrand:
http://klingonska.org/canon/search/?file=1999-09-holqed-08-3.txt&get=source
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When {tlhoy} is used, it denotes that the action expressed by the verb ({Sop} , {Qong} ) is what is being overly done or done too much.
Thus, the sentence:
{tlhoy qagh vISop}
I eat too much gagh / I eat gagh excessively / I overeat gagh
expresses the notion that the eating is excessive, not that the amount of gagh is. (Note that although it is possible to say this, it is not something anybody would be likely to ever say).
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Good point though about not having covered stative verbs as noun modifiers; I had neglected to consider that.
06.09.11 at 8:03 am